We hate robots. Ok, wait, back up. We at least think they are more evil than good. Try it yourself – “are robots” in Google nets you evil before good. Megatron has higher SEO than Optimus Prime, and it’s not just because he’s so much cooler. It cuz he evil, cuz. It do be like that.
It’s not even a compliment to call someone robotic; society connotes this to emotionless preprogrammed shells of hideous nothing, empty clankbags that walk and talk and not much else. So, me at a party. Or if you’re a nerd, you’re a robot. (Me at a party once again.)
Let’s start by assuming robots as human-like bipedal machines that are designed with some amount of artificial intelligence, generally designed to fulfill a job to free up humanity from drudgery. All sounds good so far. So why do they creep us out?
There’s a litany of reasons why, best summed up with the concept of the uncanny valley, first coined by roboticist Masahiro Mori (Wow he’s still alive! The robots have not yet won) in 1970. Essentially, we know what a human is and how it looks and behaves against the greater backdrop of life and physics. When this is translated to a synthetic being, we are ok with making a robot look and act like us to a point, where we then notice all the irregularities and differences.
Most of these are minor – unnaturally smooth or rigid movements, light not scattering properly on a surface, eyes that don’t sync up quite right when they blink, and several other tiny details. Lots of theories take over at this point about why this creeps us out. But a blanket way to think about it is that our expectation doesn’t match what we are seeing; the reality we’re presented with is off just enough and this makes us uncomfortable .
Ever stream a show and the audio is a half second off? Makes you really annoyed. Magnify that feeling by a thousand and you’re smack in the middle of the uncanny valley. It’s that unnerving. One possible term for this is abjection, which is what happens the moment before we begin to fear something. Our minds – sensing incompatibility with robots – know this is something else, something other , and faced with no way to categorize this, we crash.
This is why they make good villains in movies – something we don’t understand and given free will and autonomy, potentially imbued with the bias of a creator or capable of forming terrifying conclusions all on its own (humans are a virus). But they also make good heroes, especially if they are cute or funny. Who doesn’t love C3PO? That surprise that they are good delights us. Build in enough appeal to a robot, and we root for them and feel empathy when they are faced with hardships. Do robots dream of electric sheep? Do robots have binary souls? Bits and zeros and ones?
Professor Jaime Banks (Texas Tech University’s College of Media & Communication) spends a lot of time thinking about how we perceive robots. It’s a complex and multifaceted topic that covers anthropomorphism, artificial intelligence, robot roles within society, trust, inherently measuring virtue versus evil, preconceived notions from entertainment, and numerous topics that cover human-robot interactions.
The world is approaching a future where robots may become commonplace; there are already robot bears in Japan working in the healthcare field. Dressing them up with cute faces and smiles may help, but one jerky movement later and we’ve dropped all suspension.
At some point, we have to make peace with the idea that they will be all over the place. Skynet, GLaDOS in Portal, the trope of your evil twin being a robot that your significant will have to shoot in the middle of your fight, that episode of Futurama where everything was a robot and they rose up against their human masters with wargod washing machines and killer greeting cards, the other Futurama episode where they go to a planet full of human hating murderous robots… We’ve all got some good reasons to fear robots and their coded minds.
But as technology advances, it makes sense to have robots take over menial tasks, perform duties for the needy and sick, and otherwise benefit humanity at large. And so the question we face is how to build that relationship now to help us in the future.
There’s a fine line between making them too humanlike versus too mechanical. Pixar solved the issue of unnerving humanoids in their movies by designing them stylistically – we know they are human and accept that the figure would look odd in real life. We can do the same with robots – enough familiarity to develop an appeal, but not enough to erase the divide between humanity and robot. It may just be a question of time and new generations growing up with robots becoming fixtures of everyday life. I’m down for cyborgs too.
Fearing them might not even be bad, as Banks points out: “…a certain amount of fear can be a useful thing. Fear can make us think critically and carefully and be thoughtful about our interactions, and that would likely help us productively engage a world where robots are key players.”
Also, check out Robot Carnival if you get the chance – specifically the Presence episode of the anthology.
Eric Holmes
October 1, 2013 at 4:52 pm
The technology companies do not look at the real estate industry as an emerging market because we’re not one. As far as I can tell, we’re largely retired teachers in their 50’s. That’s not what you would consider cutting edge. While the rest of the universe covets i0s7 or whatever, we’re still trying to figure out the life alert, “I’ve fallen and I can’t get up.” Thank goodness for you and the blogs like agbeat. We’re out there. It feels like a terrible prequel for the V for Vendetta movie, but we’re out there. Hidden. Waiting. Wanting for better, but the tech real estate companies see dollar signs hidden in blue hair, senior citizen discounts and Matlock reruns. It is what it is.
Matt Fuller
October 1, 2013 at 7:07 pm
I’m not a retired teacher, and I’m not in my 50’s (yet), and until just now I’d forgotten all about Matlock. I hope by the time I’m going into the salon to get my hair “whitened” with a little blue dye I’ll be writing about something other than real estate agents and technology 🙂
JoeLoomer
October 1, 2013 at 4:57 pm
You spoke straight to my heart – I work in an area whose MLS is so archaic as to remind me of software I used while flying as a technician in the Navy…… IN 1991!!
Navy Chief, Navy Pride
Matt Fuller
October 1, 2013 at 7:06 pm
Dare I ask where? 🙂
rolandestrada
October 1, 2013 at 6:42 pm
You are so dead on. I belong to the Orange County Association of Realtors which contracts with CRMLS. I have railed for years about our pathetic MLS system. We finally got a cross-platfrom MLS in the form of Matrix this year. But the other bolt-on products they offer us as free benefits are pathetic – Homes Connect, Listingbook, Smart Desk.
These vendors see us coming from a mile away and laugh all the way to the bank. I did some digging and found out the costs and how-to of building a system for us similar to HAR’s solutions. However none of the OCAR or CRMLS hierarchy are willing to listen. We have the money to write our technology ticket but all I have gotten in response is “that’s not possible for us to do”. Which of of course BS.
It is very possible to do since HAR is already doing it. However the knuckleheads that call the shots seem content to carry on doing the same old thing and flushing money down the toilet by giving it to vendors that give us crap products.
Matt Fuller
October 1, 2013 at 7:05 pm
There’s a perverse dynamic in the MLS industry – because associations have been fairly successful in negotiating with MLS vendors to pay less per user, the margins MLS vendors have to invest in innovation are also less. I’m not suggesting anyone feel sorry for the MLS vendors, while I have never seen any of their balance sheets I have a hunch they are doing just fine, but sometimes we get the innovation we pay for…
rolandestrada
October 1, 2013 at 7:26 pm
I’ve been told by an extremely reliable source with whom I had a lengthy conversation, that it would take 6 to 7 months to develop an an iPad app like the one HAR uses for it’s agents and public facing MLS. It would cost about 100K for a finished product. The hurdle in getting to a product like that is lack of truly forward thinking leadership. Our MLS and board leadership tend to just offer us bandaid products instead 21st century high quality solutions. Anything is possible. You just need to hire the right engineers to get the job done. If I had the 100K, I would do it myself.
Matt Fuller
October 2, 2013 at 4:39 pm
My understanding is that the on-going support and maintenance costs are not insubstantial – I’ve heard some interesting ideas tossed about over the years, but most associations I’m aware of lack the infrastructure to support their users and maintain software across a variety of platforms and software versions, particularly as new devices and software versions are introduced.
rolandestrada
October 3, 2013 at 1:04 am
Most larger associations like ours can invest the money. It takes about 60K per year to maintain. I’m quite sure we piss away that much ever year on products most people don’t even use. if you code the product correctly like they do in Houston, then you don’t need worry about platforms. Besides there are only two platforms to consider regardless of device – Android and iOS. You have made my point perfectly. All I ever hear is why it can’t be done. It’s just a bunch of BS.
Matt Fuller
October 3, 2013 at 6:27 pm
I can think of plenty of things associations have spent 60k on that are much less useful than supporting great tools for agents. On that one, we totally agree. I have more thoughts about associations, software products, and MLSs…. stay tuned for more columns and thanks for your thoughtful responses on this one!
C.j. Johnson
October 4, 2013 at 9:12 am
Just curious are you a member of the MLS Committe at either board/association? I found the best way to effect change is from the inside out. I worked with two Associations and CAR and yes they are very resistant to change but one person can actually make a difference. At one point I even had a word changed in the Real Estate code just because it had a negative connotation for REALTORS.
rolandestrada
October 9, 2013 at 4:19 pm
Some boards and MLSs thankfully are more willing to change than others. Our board and MLS are not very open to technical progress. I am on our MLS committee. The response I get to developing our own iPad app and IDX as HAR has done is not encouraging at all. Surely Orange County has the same financial resources as does Houston. Sad. Very sad.
CJ Johhnson
October 2, 2013 at 11:13 am
I too experienced a SUPRA meltdown on a Saturday afternoon while showing clients which is not only frustrating its down right embarrassing. That is not MLS’s fault it’s SUPRA’s which is why I have a combo box on all my listings as back up (guess old school is not always a bad thing when used properly). On MLS systems and technology, with over 1 Million REALTORS and at least double that in MLS participants nationwide we could afford every bell and whistle we need but Brokerages are stuck in the 1970’s and remain territorial. Just say National MLS to any broker and watch them turn purple. I was on a committee that attempted to make California a Statewide MLS and we were almost tarred and feathered. I admit to being over 50, a 20+ year REALTOR Veteran, and not a retired school teacher, but I did upgrade to iOS7 last week so and old dog can actually be taught new tricks.
Matt Fuller
October 2, 2013 at 4:38 pm
I honestly don’t understand why a national MLS is so controversial. I never have. I updated to iOS7 too – I have to admit I suddenly feel a bit like the cranky old man yelling “why’d they have to go and change that?” although overall I do like it more than 6…. I’m glad you avoided the tarring and feathering – if you could make one change at the association level to make them better, what would your suggestion be?
Matt Daimler
October 2, 2013 at 11:16 pm
Matt F and I have been in touch on this, but for anyone else who wanders by (or is an Agentfolio user with questions) we corrected the Open House time issue immediately. Regarding the welcome email, we send it within one hour of the first listing being added, again the next morning and continue to do so as long as there is some folio activity.
Thousands of agents trust their business to Agentfolio and we’re sorry your first experience has not been top notch. You – and others – are welcome to contact me directly with any questions or concerns: matt AT agentfolio dot com
Matt Fuller
October 3, 2013 at 6:22 pm
#1 – Kudos to you for reaching out and joining the conversation. I hope that doesn’t sound patronizing, I really do appreciate it. And also thanks for providing a contact – your website makes it very hard to get in touch with anyone. I reported the Open house issue on Saturday, and when I heard back from support on Monday I was told it would be rolled into an update on Wednesday.
If it was fixed sooner than that, I’m glad to hear it.
When writing this article, I wanted to pick a company that’s been around forever and a newer company/product – both have support issues, and those reliability issues IMHO go to the heart of why many agents are deeply distrustful of technology.
Thanks again for getting involved, I appreciate it and respect it!
Matt Fuller
October 3, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Kent – I absolutely agree with you that agents are the most important link between buyers and sellers, and I’ve written elsewhere about “real estate exceptionalism” so I won’t bore you with it again here. I’m curious what CRM you are using and what MLS you belong to – it sounds like the tools you are using are better than much of what is out there.
Cheers,
Matt
Kent Wolfe
October 3, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Matt~My MLS is Mid Florida Regional, MFR. They include just about everything I need for both mobile and computer but I have to say, the old fashioned email followed by a phone call works very well in most instances. As an “over 50” REALTOR, I get a kick out of reading opinions we’re “over-educated” retired dinosaurs and I certainly don’t take it personally.
I keep up with the latest, greatest innovation but find most are just another variation on a basic theme. QR codes and talking real estate signs were billed as the best new inventions but really, how many people do they serve? Most buyers already have enough info long before they take a drive past the property and if not, my website and phone number is on every sign.
Regarding open houses, MFR has that option too but an agent needs to enter the info and quite frankly, very few take the time to do it. It seems we’ve become accustomed to “automatic” everything and losing site of what we really should be doing.
Thank you for your articles. I’ve found them quite informative.
Matt Fuller
October 3, 2013 at 6:25 pm
CJ – You touched on one of my “peeves” which is enforcing and monitoring agent adherence to the code of ethics. What are your experiences around this, and what would you do to put some proverbial teeth in the code of ethics and it’s enforcement at the board level?
C.j. Johnson
October 4, 2013 at 9:07 am
Mine too. As a long standing member of both Grievance and Professional Standards Committees and a Panelist in hearings there are a few sticky issues I have encountered. First there is the issue of due process to protect those who are being targeted simply because of their business practices or business model as competitors. So we can not rush to judgement. There is also the fear of retaliation in the loss of potential business when one member turns in another member. The fact that the courts mandated entry to the MLS for all licensed brokers means there is also not a level playing field. We can only take action against REALTOR members. I would recommend they put more teeth in the MLS rules to model more of the code of ethics (business ethics are still ethics) and fine heavily. In higher priced areas a $500 fine is looked at as a cost of doing business. Start the fines $5000 and you might get the bad actors attention.